It saddens me he ran with such a foolish group of people that clearly didn't care on bit for him. Tim also writes in his diary that Amie believes he is hell bent on destruction and that this will be her last season in Alaska with him, leaving him for good, and that she was looking forward to starting a new job and desperate to return to California. In fact im sure hunters got the idea from him as permitting increased unfortunetly he has popularizied the area to the world. Do nothing but stay away from the bears. Likewise, a 28-year-old bear devoured a 46-year-old man and his girlfriend, and the authorities discovered the pairs clothing and other human remains in its stomach. Why did he tell park rangers he had no living relatives? An excellent, top-notch job, bravo & thank you! I read this whole thing. Treadwell, was incapable to discern between his "bears" previous behaviour and the one incident of a malnourished bear having a migraine, right before their monthly period ( if you know what I mean) People also behave differently during times of stress and do very messed up things. Thinking wild animals were his best friends. But I don't really think so, I think he was just the Average, Common Ass, Garden Variety Insanely ARROGANT, Narcissistic Human Privileged American- Dangerously Clueless, all the while THINKING He actually has a Clue, when everyone around him KNOWS he Truly does not know the difference between Shit and Shine-ola. When he investigatedin the light of day the barn door was torn open and one of his1500 to 2000 pound horses had been carried off. (Emery 2003). Throughout the movie, Grizzly Man, we see Tim in numerous close encounters, and very nearly attacked on several occasions. At the end of the movie, the Discovery Channel had a special interview with his friends, as well as additional out-takes of the movie. 260pp. Very informative and interesting! Before an attack, a person seldom sees any signs of aggression writes, Dr. Stephen Herrero in his book Bear Attacks, Their Causes and Avoidance. Some readers may find the following information and examination disturbing. For starters, this particular bear was unfriendly. And i cannot believe not one person has mentioned u dont store food right next to your tent no comments about his bear containers please it doesnt matter! I didnt choose to go into conservation, other idiot humans forced me into it by their actions. An attempt will also be made to theorize what actually took place in camp that stormy night back in 2003 by piecing together bits and pieces of a six-minute audio recording left behind. (Gilliland 2003, pg 10), Meanwhile, rangers Dalrymple and Ellis, having just reached the plane and out of ear shot of the activity unfolding back at camp, spot a large adult bear moving down the trail from the camp. Fish and Wildlife agents. In his imagination he heard them respond 'I love you too, Timothy.' Trying to get up close to wolves results from scientific and personal curiosity. Its a lifetime, and even with adrenaline is slowed to a crawl. Im gonna give it another listen now that you cleared this out, and put more focus into my original skepticism about the distances from the microphone to see what else i notice. Vermin. By far the best written article I have read in a long time. Watching him in that movie convinces me that he had the emotional and intellectual brain of a childnear retarded for his age. Each year, when Tim set camp within Katmai National Park, he voluntarily became a member of the food chain, and by not placing an electric fence around his camp (All bear researchers that camp in this area reportedly set up portable electric fences), by hiding his camp from park rangers in dense alder brush thickets, as well as refusing to carry bear spray (firearms are prohibited in National Parks) and by crawling and walking up close to large brown bears, often touching or attempting to touch adult bears and young cubs, showed a total disregard for his life, the life of his girlfriend Amie Huguenard, and the lives of each bear that he interacted with. Lots of Alaskans would like to get a bear in their rifle sights; Treadwell sang and read to the grizzlies on the rugged Katmai Coast, and gave them names like Thumper, Mr. Chocolate, and Squiggle. Humans need to go into natural spaces with profound respect. Dr. Scott Wintersteinis a professor of animal science and the chair of theDepartment of Fisheries and Wildlife atMichigan State University. In the past when this bear had been driven away from a freshly caught salmon or other food item, the need to eat and put on weight had no doubt caused this bear to then test the true strengths of the thief and attempt to re-take its meal. I just watched the second documentary (Herzog's), and it was quite disturbing. According to Tim, as a teenager his home life disintegrated often getting stinking drunk and once smashed up the families car. I don't even remember what it was I was looking up on google when I came across your story. It might have been Treadwell's child like behaviour and outlook that allowed him to be accepted within the wild as opposed to most humans looking at animals as food or another low life form. Treadwell gained national celebrity status after his appearance February 20, 2001 on CBSs David Letterman Show, promoting his 1997 book Among Grizzlies: Living With Wild Bears in Alaska, along with his close-up photographs and video footage, often showing him within arms reach of large brown bears or creeping on all fours towards a sow and her three cubs, talking in a soft, child like, sing song voice.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[728,90],'yellowstone_bearman_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_3',129,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-medrectangle-3-0'); Katmai National Park has about 3000 of the total 35,000 Alaskan grizzly bears (ursus arctos horribilis). 1985, Bear Attacks, Their Causes and Avoidance: Lions & Burford Publishers. The grizzly bear is thought to have killed Timothy, a documentary filmmaker, and environmentalist, along with his partner Amie. I would have spent as many seasons as I could with him out there. Don't know why are so many bipolars posting thad Tim was a bipolar too. The two were probably getting ready for other scenes when the unexpected incident occurred. Instead of attracting the bear like a predator call, I believe this very aggressive bear was still attempting to protect its kill. He did what he believe. I find it very believable and insightful! All he did was acclimate wild animals to human beings, putting humans and wild life in more danger. Famous last words if you ask me. What's also interesting is his relationship with his parents. Oh, and for "nature", can find the critters in the Hollywood hills. If Tim did provide basic information on visitor use, boat and plane traffic, as well as weather information, I would argue that it was more in passing during incidental conversation, and not with official record keeping. Timothy was just a depressed man with crazy thoughts and actions about wildlife. And everyone saw it coming except him. Be safe, be true to you, enjoy your journey. Modesto, CA. 2001, Discovery Channel on camera interview. I struggle, though, to wonder how was "Bart, the stunt bear" raised and trained by Mr. Sues(sp) able to never injure anybody who came into his beautiful path and star along side of Hollywood's A listers and be literally a 1000 pound teddy bear in real life? There is nothing majestic or beautiful about it. I would think twice from just sending this as a letter to Alaska Parks and Recreation Admin for fear I wouldn't get the intelligent and unbiased author, rather that my letter and others and future letters penned by prospective park employees or bear enthusiasts wishing to be the next Mr. Seus or Mr. Treadwell (at heart but with an educated mind) anyway, I would perhaps refrain from mailing this letter in search of seeking the experienced insightful author (name unknown) as it's recipient but,dreadfully, falling in the red neck ignorant hands of the pilot man who said outloud in a movie without much hesitation, that Treadwell got what he deserved. Your article is absolutely amazing, youshow both sides of thought without being bias. this website was the first result so i clicked it, read it & im glad i did. I like the fact that the author of this article has a strong background in brown bears/grizzlies and spent a lot of time with them as Tim did because I feel that gives not just an objective opinion, but an educated one (both in textbooks and by firsthand). So much in fact I was late turning on football this Sunday morning and that says ALOT. After all men captivate us women with that magnificent staff of love. Tim was a poser a phony sure not what he wanted to be but thats what he became. As Tim leaves the tent, investigators believe that Amie instinctively turns the camera on, possibly as her message in a bottle, and then asks Tim if the bear is still out there, and almost immediately the bear attacks. I have done a lot of research on the topic and this is the best work. Raised in the Rockies, surrounded by all wildlife, taught at an early age, never let your guard down and they are not your friends or pets. If so, his concern for people killing fox then placed those very fox he was so desperate to protect in even greater danger the next time they encounter a human and expect to be fed. The stuff horror movies are made of. Minor fact but this attacked happened at 1:58PM Alaska Time.. Overcast due to the nasty weather. Van Daele, Larry. Although I felt the opinion was a bit harsh and too "educated" where Treadwell had just been "lucky" all of these years, I believe in nature man doesn't give enough credit to our ancestral and primate tendancies akin to a child like state of being. Willy then lands again about 1 mile west of the camp on the western shore of the lake. The reason for differing treatment is that the latter just look evil (and caused the fall of humanity in the garden)(been slithering about the landscape ever since)(well, at least those on land). I partially agree with the investigators, in that Amie screaming had initiated the attack on her after Tim had been dragged off. Possibly in his mind, he thought that if he didnt pose a threat to these animals, that they would ignore him and leave him alone, Timothy Treadwell was wrong. There are no highways or skyscrapers in the world of the bear- but there are boundaries. So, the challenge for the coastal grizzlies isnt dealing with people its competing for food. Well researched and so informational in shedding light on such a tragedy that could have very well been prevented. Why anyone would want to listen to the tape of his being killed I will never understand. Likewise, we know from Tims diary that Amie was frightened of bears. How do we know that? Six minutes of audio recorded during the attack were subsequently found on the couple's . There are boundaries in the world of the bear, and in wilderness. I can't speak for Amie other then her utterly heroic feat, I mean fuck, Leonidas would have shed a tear. I feel that in his head, he was helping, and he wasn't putting Amie in danger. When you hear the bears roar they are clearly closer to the camera than the screaming indicating a poor audio dubbing As i was increasingly fooled by repeats of the footage, I started to renounce my skepticism a little by saying maybe a second bear was wandering close to the camera as the other bear ate him because there are somewhat more distant roars in the footage too. At the very least we can learn from someone elses mistakes.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[468,60],'yellowstone_bearman_com-box-3','ezslot_8',110,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-box-3-0'); Night Of The Grizzly chronicles the last remaining moments of Tim Treadwells and Amie Huguenards lives, the discovery and investigation revolving around their deaths and what led up to their tragic end. (Fulton 2004), Likewise, after reviewing the video tape made by Tim 10 days before he was killed, it is now believed that bear #141 was a bear that Tim had named Ollie, the big old grumpy bear. He was just plain lucky for 13 years and became over confident in his own abilities. Im sure the same is true of most animals hence remaining calm is probably a good idea. I never arrested him for drunk driving.We all do stupid things at times. Very thorough and informative. For 13 years, Timothy Treadwell camped in several Alaskan parks but Katmai National Park was a favorite, crawling and walking up close to bears and filming them. Rarer yet, a bear who then consumes the victims. I doubt he would have wanted to see a bear killed but his actions alone created that chaos. I feel as you do, he did much more damage than good for the bears he was studying. He made it out here a long time before they (the bears) got him. lol) also not written by a hater of nature or better tagged someone who has no clue about anything not having to do with modern electronics in the comfort of his condo . Whatever is easy to get to while expending the least amount of energy. He lived off canned packed food while his bears foraged to stay alive wanted people to believe he was alone when he was not. Thats the risk we have to take to see the last remaining symbol of wilderness. I'm not trying to put you down. Grizzly is just common usage in the lower 48, having first been used during the Lewis and Clark expedition when they referred to a brown bear with grizzled appearance. The author states "bear #141 was a bear that Tim had named Ollie, the big old grumpy bear, and this is the bear identified by Hertzog in Grizzley Man as the bear that probably killed Tim and Amie. Habituating bears to the presence of man only increases the chance that harm will someday come to the bear, or another man.. Being trained as a physicians assistant, it is believed that Amie made her way to Tim, and from the sounds caught on tape, the bear returns and Amie is forced to back off. Treadwell, also known as Grizzly Man, died at 46 alongside his girlfriend Amie Huguenard on Oct. 5, 2003. Camping where they did, not following advice. It is far too easy to fall prey to your own self confidence. Votes: 6 11.1% Run Like Hell! Willy Fulton drops the pair off on Sept. 29, 2003. Again, it would have to take in-depth research to reveal exactly what his mental health issue was. Telling his closest friends the bears and fox he loved them. I dont agree with everything said in this article but I appreciate & respect the time you put into it & that youre a true wildlife person. Good writing of the events, if Tim would of keep a 44mag for just this kind of event he and his friend would still be here, not having a backup plan was his down fall, hope is not a plan. Great, while harrowing and at the same time, objective! I mean thats a real jem guess i broke the rules guy but im alive and kicking. Treadwell, Tim. The events are truly shocking and serves as a reminder that wildlife needs to be respected and given its space from human interaction. Bears are wild killers. (I have new details regarding thisto be addedbasically, Tim wrote out and signed a letter to the park service claiming that he had no living relatives, and should he be killed, to give his possessions and remains to Jewel Palovak). Thanks so much for this detailed article which sheds so much light on this tragedy. Net Worth, Bio, Age, Parents, Relationship, Who Is Lorne MacFadyen? Herrero, Dr. Stephen. Tredwell is a New Yorker from Long Island. The sound of a tent zipper is then heard and the tent flap opening. His drinking and acting out by "bashing" a car indicates such. He needed someone that cared enough to get him help. His head connected to a small piece of (spine}, and what has been described as a frozen grimace on his face. As I reported above in my investigation the bear is nearly silent. Summary: Articles about Coroner photos of timothy treadwell - PDF Free Download Extremely disturbing audio . Finally, the Grizzly Man, an eight-episode documentary that became a television series on August 29, 2008, brought an end to the troubling day. Out of all the things this man obviously suffered from, like a full blown bipolar manic psychosis, you go to struggling with closet homosexuality? As a typical child, he had a strong affinity for animals. I should have known better. I found this name early with a small description of what happened while watching some videosabout into the wild, I decided to look further into it. (Treadwell 2001). Did Treadwell have a special connection with the bears? No gun, no weapon of any kind except for a frying pan, screaming was all she had left. The Pioneer awoke in the middle of the night to his horses screaming in the barn. (National Park Service 2003) The same bears he claimed to protect. And don't understand, at all, the play dead, since if unable to discern female or male, and even if they could, these were brown and not black bears, so any cubs won't be safe up in the tree, meaning mom is going to eliminate any perceived threat by finishing you off, and then back to her cubs (brown bear likely leaves back to her cubs as soon as no perceived threat, so with mom black bear, by all means, play dead if you can't slowly back away.Next, you are rather likely right in the one respect. Clearly the author is an expert as many educated readers may surmise but how do we know this and if we don't clearly know this,the article is weakened a bit. Maybe we should be focusing more on trying to unravel the mysteries of what psychological damage happened to Timothy earlier in his life to make him react by living with and baby-talking to 1000 grizzly bears? Who knows how it died. Tredwell is a New Yorker from Long Island. A six-minute recording of the bear mauling two of them was also found on the video camera that was recovered from the location of their dead bodies. The one rule he should have broken but ironically never did was not to be armed. 1st Off- Kudos to whomever wrote this- you did a truly bang up job of being objectively critical of a difficult story because of all the publicity already surrounding it. His right arm and hand laying nearby with his wrist watch still attached. Find out: What Caused The Death Of David Salman? The bear keeps its distance, and when it appears that this will be like any other encounter, Tim decides to tape at least the audio portion for use in future presentations, yelling out to Amie to turn the camera on, which startles the bear, who had been still up to this point, and triggers the attack. At 4:26 pm the team arrive at the lake, and ranger Ellis conducts a quick interview with Willy Fulton. I forgot about it years ago and came here unintentionally. She never should have died that way. Doesnt give anyone credit girlsfriends family anybody just tim and his bandanas. A total of 6 park violations or complaints from 1994 to 2003, including guiding tourists without a license, camping in the same area longer than the 5 day limit, improper food storage, wildlife harassment, use of a portable generator, and misc. The tragedy is Tim took Amy with him. He was an habitual violator. He was an old bear and Tim included footage of Quincy in the Grizzle Man Diaries, and Tim said they were great friends, which was sad, considering that Quincy was the old Grizzly bear that was identified by Jans as Bear 141, which had a lot of human flesh inside its stomach after the rangers killed it. When I encounter a bear I instantly & CALMLY get a weapon ready & look for the safest route away from the bear as Im evaluating the bears behaviour. Bear 141, even with missing teeth, could have shaken Timothy once and broken his neck. I often work in remote areas hence Ive had my fair share of bear encounters. Poor amy i wish i could have saved her. i really hope that some good will come out of this tragedy. I never forgot it since I first read it over 15 yrs ago - everything you wrote, in such detail, is sanely deductive, intelligent, thoughtful & totally haunting. Dont ask me why because I cant explain it myself, and many people would never understand it, even if I were able to explain it. altercations with visitors and licensed guides. Amie was no doubt in love with this odd-ball, but she wasnt stupid, or weak, She could have left at any time. The pair visited Katmai National Park, which is situated in the Alaska Peninsula across Shelikof Strait from Kodiak Island, with the explorers girlfriend Amie, a physician assistant. The bears have gotten used to me, and that is dangerous, it all is. However, from statements made by Willy Fulton, the pilot that transported Tim and Amie in and out each year, this was a bear he had seen before on previous flights and was just a dirty rotten bear, that Tim didnt like anyway, and wanted to be friends with but never happened. 1. I give him a lot of respect for going into Alaska with none. Im not sure the cause or timeline, but it seemed rather obvious to me that this guy wasnt playing with a full deck. His early attempts at camping were almost comical. After a few minutes, I decided to get up and walk across the meadow, only to have the whole family follow along beside me. Ranger Ellis, armed with a 40 cal. 2003, Treadwell Incident Review Board Member. Why weren't you there for him??? The chilling final moments of Timothy and his girlfriend were captured on tape as they were mauled to death by a brown bear. He was as useless as tits on a Bar hog, and his legacy is fitting- He ended as Bear Shit. He probably had a de-ja-vu feeling of inevitability. Dr. Scott Winterstein discussed why the bear killed Timothy Treadwell. Buuutthis is America, no bear spray, no heavy tools, nothing. They simply work bt far best, by far. Until then, I bet there is a lot more to be uncovered. Its a breathe of fresh air. And if your in Healy they ask or say dont pull a chris macanless. <p>Timothy Treadwell was a rehabilitated drug addict, who used to live among Grizzly's as if they were his pets, but unfortunately, it was not the case. In one of the most extremeand ultimately tragicexperiments in human-animal cohabitation ever attempted, for 13 consecutive summers, Treadwell lived (and finally died) among the bears at an Alaskan national park. The world needs to quit studying gas bubbles in Antarctic ice and redirect those funds to lead a manmade effort that involves transporting protein from beef or pork to the Arctic homes of the majestic polar bears. Dodging and weaving around one tent, and then the other, out of her mind with fear? Same farm/ranch, and eldest cousin went out on horseback alone. Votes: 13 24.1% Throw Salt on the Boyfriend, Run Like Hell! Please let me know what you think? 2003 Park Service Incident Report pages 2,3,9. Amie Huguenard apparently did not share the same concern. Not all bear researchers think so. For an almost forgot, don't know how much is born with versus the TV and film, but slap the child's hand when he or she reaches out to touch someone's dog. He clearly overcompensated in his tapes. Timothy was clearly INSANE. Once the bear had driven Amie off, I believe the bears predatory instincts took over and decided to drag Tim off to a more secure area after Amie returned and began aggressively attacking it with the frying pan, just as the bear would have done when dealing with other more dominant bears and a freshly caught salmon or moose calf. Grizzly Man chronicles the life and death of bear enthusiast Timothy Treadwell, who was killed, along with his girlfriend, Amie Huguenard, by a rogue bear in October 2003. A threat to the males. No matter how many safety precautions you may have taken, or how prepared you might be. In my opinion, Amie was able to drive the bear away initially, because this was an older bear who had become conditioned when dealing with younger, stronger, more dominant bears by moving away from the food it had just obtained after being challenged, and was probably startled by a second animal, Amie in this case, suddenly appearing and making a lot of noise.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-3','ezslot_10',121,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-leader-3-0'); After scaring the bear away, Amie and Tim have a short conversation while determining where the bear is, and whether it is still nearby. Admire from a safe distance and be respectful. This is WILDlife and is to be met with only extreme respect. . Eight days later they are discovered dead. That somehow these same bears then want to get back at humans is just too far reaching. Herzog contends that the cameras lens was not opened in the documentary Grizzly Man.. Your voice is beautiful! And from what I read, no one has a degree in this field or even a related one. Your analysis helped greatly, thanks again.On a separate note, I saw that you worked at Yellowstone, and wanted to mention that my Father, Wayne, rode out with Dave Phillips MANY years ago (after college) before going off to medical school (Dave Phillips became a Park Ranger). Certainly a horrible way of dying, Amy was brave no doubt about it. However, had we met, Tim and I would have no doubt had some heated discussions about how I thought he was doing more harm than good with his behavior in Alaska. There are several books that have already been published, much too early in my opinion, and before most of the information I have been able to uncover has been released, all with their own theories and speculation. And he said he can f'ing survive the grizzly maze, but the rest of us couldn't. Trooper Chris Hill said the. It is a shame that you did not write a book (I fully understand your reasoning and respect that tho) as it would have given people much important information and helped to prevent this happening to others. Signs that he had grown up in a dysfunctional family. There have been quite a few comments made about Tim being responsible for Amies death, I have actually struggled with this for several years now. [1] Sadly, Ammie trusted and was with an idiot California nut that got what he deserved. I would wager he was tormented w sexuality issues, and couldn't come out of the closet. One day, someone will verify that they've watched most of the still available footage. But after several trips to Yellowstone and watching how stupid tourists are around the bison, trying to pet them, climb on them or place their children on them, one has to wonder. George reeves autopsy photos wallpapers (George reeves autopsy photos wallpapers). ~ A True Story Of Love And Death In The Wilderness ~. I think this would clear a lot of his mental instability. Nothing that something as small as a .22 can't solve, however. Hello !I looked into a doku about a photographer from Switzerland, which has been spending a lot of time in Alasca, filming bears in this doku i heard about Tim and Amie and afterwards i wanted to know more i am thankful for your words and that you gave Amie "a place" in this story its tragic, i think she knew what was going on but we all know, what love has to do with it he has had no fear that is important to understand this ending of 2 lifes very sad and brutal but he was the only one to make choices, after regarding that special bear i am very sad about the death of Tim and Amie but i am thankful, you brought YOUR thoughts into the internet, so i can try do understand, what has happened ! Tim did not handcuff or hold her hostage up in Alaska, Amie came and went of her own free will twice each year for three summers.